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Women’s Ministry Leader Interview with Dee Humphrey

Mentioned in this episode:
Real-Life Discipleship by Jim Putman
Road Trip Icebreaker Game
Fellowship Devotional
Unseen Leadership Podcast

Some edits have been made to increase readability.

[00:00:00] Dee Humphrey: All leadership means is you go first. You go first to be a servant leader for Jesus Christ. And so it’s something that’s always stuck with me and in my heart, and that’s usually the first thing that I tell women.

​[00:00:42] Cyndee Ownbey: Ladies, I am so excited to introduce you to our guest today. I have the pleasure of interviewing Dee Humphrey and before Dee joins us, I want to tell you just a little bit of background about Dee. Dee reached out to me when she heard that I was taking classes at Southeastern and offered to meet with me if she could be of any help.

And you all, I’ve told this to Dee before, but I had been praying that the Lord would send help, because I was feeling very overwhelmed in this new season of doing seminary and going back to school. And she was a literal answer to prayer. The first time we met via Zoom, we connected immediately, and I just love Dee’s joy for the Lord, and she has become a dear, dear friend, and she’s also going to be one of the keynote speakers at this year’s Faithful Conference.

So I am very excited for her to share with you today and for you to get to know her. Dee, thank you so much for being here.

[00:01:39] Dee Humphrey: I’m so excited.

[00:01:40] Cyndee Ownbey: Yay. I am too. Why don’t you start, Dee, by telling us about the church that you go to.

[00:01:46] Dee Humphrey: I worship and attend Grove First Baptist Church. It’s in northeast Oklahoma.

We’ve been there about 11 years. Actually, most people kind of think too that it’s a bigger church for this area. It is, but it’s kind of like your smaller mediums size. We run probably about 275, 300 people.

[00:02:12] Cyndee Ownbey: A lot of leaders I’m sure can relate to that. Can you tell us how your women’s ministry is set up in your church?

[00:02:18] Dee Humphrey: We have a director, a co-director, and then we’ve got other women on the team. We have monthly meetings at the beginning, every single month.

[00:02:27] Cyndee Ownbey: Dee, I love that you guys meet once a month. Do you guys have a ministry mission statement?

[00:02:35] Dee Humphrey: Yes, we actually do it is to glorify God by reflecting Christ’s love to others.

[00:02:41] Cyndee Ownbey: Oh, I love that. That’s beautiful.

[00:02:42] Dee Humphrey: So everything that we do regardless, is we always we ask the question whether it’s a bible study, whether it’s an outreach event or anything like that we’re doing. We’re like, does it glorify God? And are we reflecting Christ’s love to others? And so that’s kind of just keeps us centered in what we’re doing.

[00:03:01] Cyndee Ownbey: Those are great questions to ask leaders. You might want to jot those very questions down yourself. Dee, would you tell them to us one more time so they can get it?

[00:03:08] Dee Humphrey: Yes. It’s to glorify God and then to reflect Christ’s love to others. I love that.

[00:03:09] Cyndee Ownbey: That’s great. And now I want to hear your ministry story. How did you get started in women’s ministry?

[00:03:24] Dee Humphrey: It’s a funny story because actually. Probably about one year after I became saved and become baptized, I surrendered to ministry and I kind of just threw my hands up and said, okay, Lord, Your will Your way, do what You want with me. And the doors kept opening to women’s ministry and I was just like, Ugh, ugh. Wait Lord, no, not there. Please, no, not there. I can’t even get along with women. And I was like, I don’t even know how I would be able to fit into this area, but opportunities kept coming my way. Women were asking me, Hey, can you help us plan these events?

Can you lead? Can you speak? Can you teach? And I was just like, Ugh. Uh, I don’t know. I kind of let my insecurity take over just a little bit. And so I would help behind the scenes as much as I could, but then I actually ran from that calling for about 10 years.

Cyndee Ownbey: Oh my gosh. I didn’t even know that.

Dee Humphrey: Yes. And I just, I don’t know what it was. I was just scared and I was like, why are they asking me to do this? And it just, I mean, I don’t know what it was. I just literally let fear take over. And so during that time, my family and I, we kind of ended up moving to a different state. And so nobody didn’t really know me and yet I thought, okay, here’s a great way so I can kind of hide just a little bit.

And so we get into a new church and I began serving as well. And then women kept asking me, Hey, can you do this? Can you do this? And I was like, yeah, of course I’ll come. Because I wanted, I was always there, showing up, me and my kids, my husband, and that kind of eventually led to our associational retreat that we would have every year.

It’s where all the churches, the Baptist churches kind of came together, and it was about 51 of them in the area. I got asked if I would help serve and put out chairs and tables and all of this other stuff, kind of clean and help them. And I was like, of course I can come. And so I did that for probably about two or three years, and so what was happening is that the Lord was showing me and teaching me how to be a servant leader behind the scenes.

I got to see all the ins and outs of how retreats were put together, women’s ministries coming together, and just how women minister to women. I did that, continued to serve in my local church as well, and I finally, finally surrendered to leading and, and teaching during that time and just kind of did Sunday school class, so women’s events and stuff like that.

It didn’t take too long before the women’s ministry director position over our association had an opening. The director had stepped down, okay. And somebody had come to me and asked me, Hey, would you like to serve in this position? And of course, that fear sets in again and you’re like, ah, I can’t do this.

But I was just like, okay, Lord, I’m going to look at this as a learning opportunity and a growing opportunity just to do exactly what I’ve been doing in ministry everywhere else is just serving the women. Get behind them and push them forward. I did that about three years while also co-leading our women’s ministry in our local church.

Okay. I did that for a couple years, and then my health and back issues that I had kind of took a turn. So I stepped out and went through the whole recovery process and the healing. And that took a little while, but I came back and started wanting to serve again in our church.

And by that time, our women’s ministry leader, she stepped down. And then I was asked, yes. Oh yeah. I was just like, okay, I’m seeing a progression here. And so she stepped down and then our pastor had asked, if I would kind of help lead and keep this ministry going forward. So I’ve been doing that position for probably about three to four years now.

[00:07:41] Cyndee Ownbey: Okay. I love hearing how the Lord was giving you opportunities to serve and you were willing to do that. You took those baby steps. Not at first, but you also were like, you had your little sabbatical where you were not going to do it. Where you ran kind of like is it Jonah or, yeah, it’s Jonah, right?

Jonah ran and you ran. But the Lord eventually got you where you needed to be, and I’m so thankful that you followed and heeded and obeyed His calling to serve in women’s ministry. And I know that you’re a blessing to the women there in your church as well.

I have a feeling a lot of leaders listening are going to be able to relate to your story. I doubt that any of us,, at five or six years old was actually thinking, when I grow up, I want to be a women’s ministry director at a church. That probably wasn’t on our radar, and I’ve found, you mentioned like; I don’t even really like women. I don’t know if I want to do this or teaching.

[00:08:41] Dee Humphrey: The last thing that I wanted to do in high school was to be a teacher. I was like, oh, that’s, that’s not something I wanted to do. And yet I’m in two areas that I never thought I would be here, but God is good, right? That’s right. He knows what we do before we need it.

[00:08:57] Cyndee Ownbey: Absolutely. And He’s given you those gifts even if you didn’t feel like you had them or you couldn’t see them back then, so that’s beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing that with us.

[00:09:07] Dee Humphrey: You bet.

[00:09:07] Cyndee Ownbey: I would love to know what is an event or activity that you have done with the women in your church that they have really liked, that’s been successful, or you’ve seen lots of growth out of it, however you want to kind of define that.

[00:09:20] Dee Humphrey: Okay. One of the events that kind of like just comes to mind is like our pursuit event. It’s a community outreach to where we hold it in the fall. And what we do is we get like a speaker, we do worship, and then, we also take everything right after that outside and we light up the whole back of the church yard and with patio lights and then there’s hay bales, there’s s’mores.

It literally looks like fall and pumpkins throw up on the church lawn. It is a pretty cool event because the reason why we do this is we’re trying to build connections and have gospel conversations with women in the community. And so the first year that we did it it was kind of like just an opening of what’s this?

And women in the community were like, okay, this is exciting. We’re going to come. And by the second year that we did it, we saw so many more women. I mean, it grew, it was great. We had fun but it took a lot of work. It took a lot of work behind the scenes, and so I think we had probably about like 20 to 25 volunteers.

Cyndee, you know that an event like this it doesn’t just come together by the spur of the moment. We actually started planning for this event a year in advance. And when I say planning, it always begins in prayer. We pray over it because to me, I see too many women’s ministries that say, Let’s plan this and then, hey, God, You bless it. And so I don’t like that. To me, I have learned early on is that our ministry has got to be centered around God, around prayer and His Word. And so that’s kind of what we do. We come together, we pray together. We start asking questions and if we don’t have the answers, then we just stop and pray again.

We want to join where God is working. This whole event was put together by prayer. And then our volunteers are men in the men’s ministry. They came together and they did a bunch of the grunt work. They put out the tables, they were putting what was it? Lighting the fires outside. They even served us the food. That’s great. I know. I mean, it was amazing. They actually gave the women an opportunity to be able to do what they need to do and build those relationships and stuff. An event like this we budgeted pretty good on that. We always allow for about anywhere from like $3,500 to $5,000 depending on what we’re doing.

But like I said, it takes a lot of planning, a lot of people, a lot of saints and servants working behind the scenes.

[00:12:09] Cyndee Ownbey: I love that. I love that you guys prayed from the very beginning, Lord, what will we do? Not just, Hey, here’s our plans, like you said, Lord, please bless the work that we’ve done and the plans that we’ve made.

And I also love that you asked your men and they were willing to serve. So I’m curious, did they serve there and then expect something in return? Were you guys promising to serve or do something else?

Dee Humphrey: No.

Cyndee Ownbey: No, that’s, that’s a lot. I love that. ’cause I think a lot of times we feel like if we ask the men’s ministry to do something for us, then we kind of have to do something in return for them.

And I love that they were just willing to come in and serve. And you pointed out that freed up your women to interact with the other women at the event and not have to be making coffee behind the scenes or setting out more food, and just all the little menial tasks that go on.

Not that our women can’t help with that and we can’t do that, but it’s nice sometimes for that to be taken care of, those details to be done. So you can, especially with an outreach event, have those conversations, build community, introduce people to each other. That’s great. What a great tip.

Thanks so much for sharing that.

[00:14:00] Cyndee Ownbey: Dee, I would love to hear what discipleship looks like in your church.

[00:14:05] Dee Humphrey: Discipleship, teaching the Bible, it’s all centered around God’s word. And so that’s the foundation of everything that we do. When we’re setting up the year, discipleship looks like to us relationships.

And so all the way through it, when we’re planning, we’re like, how can we build relationships also formed around God’s Word as well. We take the schedule, we look at it and we’re like, we need Bible studies, but we also need to balance it out with that time of fellowship and building relationships.

We have bible studies that we offer about several of them on different days.  , so that way it can reach different women. Okay. And that goes throughout our year. Discipleship sometimes can feel like lots of planning. Events, events, events,  , and we leave out the gospel or we leave out God’s Word and we just come together and have fun.

Which that is great, but we’re very intentional about our women’s events whether that be a game night, we stop in the middle of it. We have a devotion and we share the gospel.

Like if we play Bunko or any other type of games, we will stop right in the middle of it and share a devotion or the gospel because what we always try to do is. Our fellowships are outreach activities. We’re trying to bring women in from the community, and so whether they’re unchurched, they’re lost, they don’t know Jesus, that’s our opportunity every time that they come into our church.

[00:15:32] Cyndee Ownbey: I love that. I love that you guys don’t miss that opportunity because we don’t know if they’ll come back or not. We don’t know if they’ve heard the gospel, and we can safely assume that not every woman in our church is saved either, and that she may need to hear the gospel. So I’m glad that’s a big focus of you all making sure that that message is always shared, even if it is just a fun game night that you take that time and you pause and you refocus and get everybody to open God’s Word a little bit, talk about God’s Word and talk about the work that He’s done for us. So that’s great. Love it. Are there any other events or activities that you guys do in your church that you want to share about?

[00:16:09] Dee Humphrey: We do some summer activities too where we bring in and, and this is how we kind of cross generations here. Okay. Is we have, uh, some more mature women in our church that they know how to bake, they know how to cook, they know how to can… All of these things where our younger women don’t really know. The younger women would come to me and say, Hey, do you think so and so would like teach us how to make bread or cinnamon rolls from scratch and stuff.

And so I was like, Hey, there’s something there. I went and I found one of the ladies that is an exceptional baker and she’s just a great cook in our church. And so I went and found her and said, Hey, would you like to do like a demonstration? And it kind of make it as interactive as possible for women to come and I mean, it was a hit.

She did cinnamon rolls from scratch.. And showed them, brought them up, let them pour ingredients in. And then she also had made over, I want to say about a hundred cinnamon rolls to where she was baking them and you could smell it in the air, in the oven, in the kitchen. And everybody got to taste and take one home.

I think we even did a devotion on cinnamon and how cinnamon was a key ingredient in making cinnamon rolls. It was a great night. It was fun. She was actually a comedian when you put the mic on her, and so it was great. The women loved it.

[00:17:34] Cyndee Ownbey: Oh, that’s neat.

And what a practical skill. I know a lot of women in our church, things like canning, there’s so many different things. I know leaders listening probably right now are already thinking in their mind, oh gosh, we could teach our women how to make pie crusts or mill flour, or there’s, there’s just so many things that we’ve kind of lost the art of that generations before us did regularly. People grew up learning to can and make pickles and all those things and we’ve lost some of that and a lot of people are interested in that. So what a great idea. That’s a fun way to take just kind of a different twist on things for the summer when you’ve got that break of Bible studies, but still getting your women together and still bringing the focus back to God’s Word.

So thanks for sharing that with us. I appreciate it.

[00:18:19] Dee Humphrey: Oh, you’re so welcome. I was going to tell you one thing that I thought was so cool is, yeah, our ladies, many years ago at a retreat, she did a canning one. And the whole message was off of being sealed by the Holy Spirit because that was one of the main things that you do in canning.

And so I was like, how is she related that to the Holy Spirit and the gospel? It was amazing. And so I’m like, that was a great tip. Great idea for someone who wants to do that.

[00:18:46] Cyndee Ownbey: Absolutely. Thanks for sharing that with us. That’s really neat. Like my brain is twirling, is spinning right now.

Dee Humphrey: Yes. You and I do that. Especially our women’s ministry stuff. Yes. We’re like, oh, this is cool. Let me write that down. We may have to do that.

Cyndee Ownbey: So I hope you guys are taking notes as you’re listening to us chat. That’s always the goal when you listen to these interviews is that. Uh, there will be some ideas that the Lord will just kind of highlight as you’re listening and might give you a nudge after you prayerfully, of course, take it before the Lord and see if that’s the best thing for the women in your church.

So, let’s talk about new leaders. What would be your advice for someone who’s a new women’s ministry leader? I know you’ve got some things to share.

[00:19:27] Dee Humphrey: The first thing I would tell her is welcome to the party.

Cyndee Ownbey: No one has said that.

Dee Humphrey: I figured that. But I always tell our women, I’m like, Hey, I’m excited. This is going to be a journey of a lifetime for them. And it’s, it’s also an opportunity for growth. And so what’s pretty cool about this is I also tell them, is that being a women’s ministry leader is not about titles and power and position.

It’s about leadership and whenever you break that word down to its core, what it actually means. The best definition that I heard was actually in seminary. Dr. Struecker, he would say, “all leadership means is you go first”. You go first to be a servant leader for Jesus Christ.

And so it’s something that’s always stuck with me and in my heart, and that’s usually the first thing that I tell women is we’re here. I mean, like I said, it’s not about being in a position of power or in charge. It’s getting behind the women and serving them and loving them and helping them. Find their potential and their gifting in Christ so they can serve and advance the kingdom.

[00:20:50] Cyndee Ownbey: Oh, I love that, Dee. That’s so good. And, and so true. Leaders who’ve been around a while I know are nodding their heads as they’re listening to the advice you share. It’s not about platform, it’s not about growing influence or numbers on Instagram or anything like that. It really is about serving. And I love that you said and getting behind and pushing the other women in your church.

Mm-hmm. Uh, so often I think we kind of feel like. We have to do it all because we’re the women’s ministry leader or director, whatever the official title is, and we have to always be the one teaching or we always have to be the one at the mic. emceeing the event, always have to be fill in the blank.

That’s not true. That’s not what our role is. And so thank you so much for reminding us of that.

[00:21:36] Dee Humphrey: I think one of my favorite things to do, like what you’re talking about there, is I love as a women’s ministry leader, when women come in and they say they want to serve, they want to be on the team or they want to rotate or do something in women’s ministry.

One of the first things that I do is, I sit with them, talk with them, building that relationship. I want to hear about their salvation experience. I want to know if they’re baptized, and then it’s my job to kind of discern and identify where they are in this spiritual growth process. That way, once I identify that, I can kind of put them where they need to be.

If they’re a new Christian and they need to be discipled more, then we’re going to put them with a mentor, someone who can help them. Or if, they’ve already been equipped, and they’re mature, then they need to be making disciples, and we put them in further leadership positions.

I think it’s pretty neat, just to kind of, as we’re talking about women’s ministry leader, a lot of that gets left out of where our job is to help them grow, but you need to be able to identify where they are in the process. That’s one of the main things that I love to do, like you said, is especially with our younger generation.

A lot of them, they just, they don’t know where they’re supposed to be. So that’s one of my favorite things to do is when I get a new women’s ministry leader, especially. I can think of one right now. She had some strong leadership qualities. And so it was my job to help her steward those well. And what that meant was at some of these events, it shouldn’t always be me up there on the platform. I would provide opportunities for her to get on up there and be like the emcee, do our door prizes, and to talk about our next events and stuff like that. And it’s amazing to watch our younger generation thrive and they shine. And so that’s what the main thing about women’s ministry to me is. Is that my job and my role is to train the next generation to take my place because actually it’s not my ministry. It’s God’s ministry. Most often in women’s ministry, when a leader leaves, the ministry dies.

And that’s because you’ve formed it around the leader. If you’re not equipping other women that’s what usually happens. And so our job is to equip women to where they can take that ministry further and continue to keep glorifying God.

[00:24:08] Cyndee Ownbey: I love that. So much wisdom in what you just shared, Dee, in so many different ways and places.

But it’s not about us. I’ve been in situations where like I had to, I could only serve for three years and then I had to stop down, and I had not done a good job of building up the leaders behind me. And that spot sat empty for a while before the Lord put somebody in that place. And sometimes there’s a purpose in that, and He does that for a reason.

We can’t always have that spot filled the moment that we step out, but sometimes it’s on us that we failed to ready the rest of our team. We never know what could happen. We could get sick, we could have something tragic happen in our family and we need to step out and care for someone for a while, or we could move. Our husband may not get a new job or something and all of a sudden we’re changing churches unexpectedly. So I love that thought of making sure that you’re raising up those other leaders, that you’re training them, encouraging them, shining a light on them and giving them opportunities to lead and to do those things.

Ssuch, such good thoughts there. Dee, thanks so much for sharing that.

[00:25:12] Dee Humphrey: You’re welcome.

That’s why whenever you ask me, Hey, what’s your discipleship?  What does it look like in your church? Right now it’s looking like we are actually reevaluating that. We all need to have a discipleship strategy to where, when women come in the church that we’re meeting their needs, but also identifying where they are in a spirit spiritual growth process. And the women on our team is just like, wait, how do you do that? And I was like, oh, if they don’t know how. Then it’s my job to equip them and to show them how.

And so we’re going to go through that process. And so that’s, that’s kind of what we’re doing. We’re revamping just a little bit, or yeah, should I say, kind of pivoting in this next year to see what that looks like, because I want to be intentional about leaders leading others. And so that’s what we’re doing the next year.

So it’s going to be fun.

[00:26:03] Cyndee Ownbey: That’s great. Now I’m going to ask you a question. You might not have an answer for us, but I know leaders are listening and they’re thinking, how do I do that? The same thing that your leaders are asking. How do I identify where someone is spiritually? Do you have a tool or a resource or some tips that you can share with us to get us started?

[00:26:21] Dee Humphrey: Yes, I am. Actually, I’m looking for my material right here. Yeah. Because what I do have is Jim Putman.He has a book called Real Discipleship.And what it does is it walks you through the difference. Stages of where somebody is at In their spiritual walk. And so the five stages are pretty much like you’ve got the unsaved, to where they’re lost, they don’t believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. And then it tells you the main thing that we need to be doing right there is sharing the gospel and evangelizing.

And then the second stage is to where when they receive the gospel and they are saved, they become infants in Christ. They need basically like the, the theology and the basic doctrines of what we believe in, why we believe, and then it’s just this this little growth process. How long they stay in it depends on how long you’re teaching and they’re active and they’re coming to church. And it also says that we shouldn’t be so harsh on them while they’re in this stage because they still got the world in them a little bit. And so it’s the sanctification process of where they’re coming to growth.

And then they move into like this child and this adolescent phase to where we all know, hey, they’re learning a little bit more. They’re getting a little bit more independent, but they still kind of slip and fall a little bit, but we continue that process of spiritual growth and teaching them.

And then they move into like your, what is it like your young adults to where young adult college age to where you’re equipping them for ministry. They need to know their spiritual gifting. They need to know how to put on the spiritual armor and fight off all of that flesh and that world and temptation. And then they move into the last stage to where it’s like you’re a parent or you are a mentor. And what this is is where they’re actively, disciples are discipling and making other disciples.

And so that’s the growth of where we’re trying to go through these five stages. There’s so much more in there. I definitely recommend that book. Even Chuck Lawless has a great book on discipleship, and it’s talking about that as well, and it kind of breaks down the levels more of what they need to learn in each and every single area.

And so that’s what we’re going to do with our women’s ministry leaders. We’re going to walk through these stages no matter how long it takes them, because I want them to be able to be equipped to help our women thrive in women’s ministry.

[00:28:57] Cyndee Ownbey: That sounds great. Tell us again. Jim Putnam, is that what you said? The other one?

[00:29:00] Dee Humphrey: It’s Jim Putman.

[00:29:01] Cyndee Ownbey: Okay.

[00:29:02] Dee Humphrey: P-U-T-M-A-N. It’s Real Life Discipleship.

[00:29:03] Cyndee Ownbey: Okay. I want to make sure that I put a link to that in the show notes too. Ladies, if you did not get that, you can check there. So, great resource recommendation. So that brings us to our last question. What resources would you recommend for women’s ministry leaders?

That was a great one right there.

[00:29:21] Dee Humphrey: I’m always going to recommend the Women’s Ministry Toolbox yours. I’m telling you because even before I ever knew you, I literally felt like I was a stalker because I was like, this stuff is great. Where has this been on your website for so long?

And so it was actually one of the resources that I go to. I mean, you’ve got stuff on there about, devotionals, Bible study, tips for leaders. But also I love your event planning too, as well of how to put on retreats in just simple ways. And one of my favorites that I love is your icebreakers.

I’m like not kidding you. I think we did one last year. Was it like a road trip or something like that?

Cyndee Ownbey: Oh yeah. Road trip icebreaker game.

Dee Humphrey: We did the road trip. Yeah. I like that. And then I even used. I think it was one of your devotional last year for our fellowship. It was like a women’s ministry kickoff and getting everybody back from summer, and we started talking about what is true biblical fellowship based off of Acts 2:42.

And so you had that devotion there and I was like. This is incredible. And so I just built on it and created it into a four series of prayers sticking into the word, that we’re regularly to be meeting together. And so we put all those things into practice for four weeks. So Cyndee, thank you for that resource.

[00:30:49] Cyndee Ownbey: You’re welcome. You’re welcome. Thank you for the shout out. Is there anything else that you would recommend for resource?

[00:30:53] Dee Humphrey:  One of my favorites is actually, I love the podcast Unseen Leadership. It’s a leadership forum type of podcast. I really like listening to that just because of their different spins on it. It talks about church, all leadership. I’m not talking about that. I just use it basically for women’s ministry, and so it’s a great resource too.

[00:31:13] Cyndee Ownbey: I have not heard that one. I’ll have to check it out. I’ll take that resource with me and, and check it out. So thank you for that. Dee, are there any last words that you want to share?Anything that you feel like we didn’t want to cover, that you want to mention before we go?

[00:31:29] Dee Humphrey: Okay. I was going to say, my daughter’s got this thing right here where my mind immediately went to was, you can’t make everyone happy. You’re not a taco.

[00:31:44] Cyndee Ownbey: So can I just see a women’s ministry leader ordering those shirts for everybody on their team? We’re giving everybody a magnet or a key chain with that on it. That’s hysterical. Yes. I just thought it was so funny.

[00:31:57] Dee Humphrey: It’s so true. Women’s ministry basically is a get in there, try, see what fits, what works. Everybody’s church is different. So what works for somebody else may not work for you, right? But we take all these ideas, take them to the Lord in prayer and see what creativity He comes up with.

And always fill your women’s ministry team with different generations. And that way you’ve got the, the young, you’ve got our more mature women that are pouring into each other. And I’m going to tell you, I’ve learned the most from those who are younger than me. But also gain biblical wisdom from those who are generations ahead of me. And so that’s what God wants us to do is working together, being those Titus 2 women and glorifying God.

[00:32:49] Cyndee Ownbey: Amen. Amen. What a great way to wrap us up, Dee. Thank you. Well, ladies, I hope you’ve enjoyed this episode. Thank you so much , Dee, for sharing with us today.

Dee Humphrey: I’ve enjoyed it.